in oxford. i'm not particularly worried about the sources of funding i find it interesting that 2 such disparate sources have both decided this is a good idea but that doesn't stop me from thinking that it's a good idea too and looking at the contributors i see and andrew bass of each and there who's very much along my lines of sort of conservative libertarian on a lot of international issues i see parsi from georgetown with whom i agree on almost nothing but the whole idea i would think is to have people of various points of view coming together to discuss these issues and get people outside of their echo chambers that's one to paly put don ok i'm going to start throwing some cold war water on it here ok you have george soros and his relationship with the atlantic council a very you know that is the mouthpiece of nato it's staunchly anti russian if you look at the koch brothers they have been supporting this illegal who in venezuela i could go on and on ok so i'm just happy i'm left but we'll d

for bill kristol go ahead in oxford in oxford. here. it's a case of same stuff different day from crystal i was sort of so. look this is a necessary point of view being put forward it has been put forward individually by a number of people and when you find people as disparate as rand paul and bernie sanders agreeing on american military foreign policy needed to take a backseat to american diplomatic foreign policy and i say that as a diplomat of 26 years experience with the u.s. foreign service then i think something good is blossoming here now if we're still worried about the koch brothers and show us you know half a 1000000 each that's that's a rounding error on their petty cash account sure hey they're not deeply invested here but there's certainly making a point of investing and i think there's a difference ok don you seem to be more of the skeptic on the program react to that . well 1st you know the objective conditions are such that imperial retreat is you know on the agenda of the ceci and trump represents that certainly the pol

brussels he's an independent journalist in paris we have emmanuelle gave she is a french lawyer and in oxford we cross to mark ohman he is the director of the crisis research institute or across the uk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it let's go to our guest in paris the many well you have president mccrone just recently said that nato is brain dead how do you reflect upon that because a nato summit is coming up next week and it's been shortened to 2 days because a lot of people worried that. donald trump will start some kind of dumpster fire as he tends to do when it comes to nato so how is the nato alliance stand right now because you have jeremy corbyn and going into election mode doubting the alliance the necessity here so i mean is mccrone right is nato brain dead go ahead. well to be honest i am afraid that this time i find myself on the same page as mr my core which is something it's something unusual for me and stopped going for me right time twice a day it's but what we have to look at is that mr mccloy saying it is a brand this is

is not the one up for it so that's my point of view on that ok i would say with a lot of market in oxford but i would make the argument that all 27 from the united states being the 28 member of nato their sovereignty is compromised as well and if you look at public opinion polls it's been pretty. trending is there do you know more and more people in western europe in the united states have doubts about you know having a collective security treaty organization for a countries that are so far away and what france and the u.k. in the united states want to get into a military conflict over you know a country like. stonier i mean is that something people are interested in poll say people aren't go ahead mark. well i think this is always the problem with a large alliance that you find that the fringe areas the border areas are remote from centers of population centers of contribution by the british the french and so on so it's true not just for eastern europe but also for the south if we think about france italy and spain in nato the the immediate security threat comes from islamic terrorist gr

it's been a roller coaster ride earlier i spoke to the director of the crisis research institute in oxford that's mark home and he says the aim for the prime minister now is to try to come up with a deal that will be acceptable to the majority. the basic majority they have the conservative party members and the democratic unionist party and that is an essential part of this dilemma that ever since mrs may called last to certain action and reduced have authority she's been in the week a position on the other hand the opposition can defeat her because as we saw today if you have a vote of no confidence in the tory government tory m.p.'s including very prominent are mailers rally to the tribal identity and it's quite striking that m.p.'s like on a subaru who are painted next to mrs may as leading remain are tories no less wear the most aggressive towards jeremy corbett in their interventions when he was speaking so you have this ball here but we have your pin issue which divides parties and then there's the party political issues which tends to draw them together to clarify for anybody watchi