, and i apologize. >> now trump was supposed to be in wisconsin today joining paul ryan at an event, but ryan disinvited him, and that is where we find nbc's jacob rascon at the fall fest. you've been talking to trump is a poresupporters and always have guest conversations with them. what are they saying? >> reporter: a lot of them probably didn't show up because they found out trump was coming anyway, when we told hem pence wasn't coming, very disappointed. they're not bothered by the tape. they think hillary clinton's mistakes are worse than his and this is about the debt, trillions in debt and isis and other issues more important to them. behind me on the stage, governor scott walker, where trump and paul ryan were supposed to be together for the first time and instead what we have, trump supporters here shouting, "trump, trump" during some of the speeches. incredible. all the speakers that have taken the stage from the young republicans, the lieutenant governor, congressman and now the governor, are avoiding any mention of trump. no mention of trump by name.