tony travers in that small with court that we that we watched before we started chatting we saw at this a v me who obviously very proud and very happy at his results the saying that you know that he had done well in italy that marine le pen and then well in france that nigel farage obviously had done well in england as as he said and in fairness those are 3 really of the 4 biggest countries in the e.u. how similar or different do you seen the movements are between the brics that party and the general and marine le pen savina a lot of the of the far right leaders and you clearly have some things in common that they are insurgent movements against and establishment in the country that he's seen or can be portrayed as being out of touch and in need of a kicking really a political version of kicking. beyond that of course i mean nigel farage within u.k. politics is very careful to stay as far as possible with inside the political mainstream the reason that ukip his former party has done very badly in these european elections and in the local elections that took place in the recently is that

tony travers in that small with port that that we watched before we started chatting with some at this a v me who obviously very proud and very happy at his results a saying that you know that he had done well in italy that marine le pen and then well in france that nigel farage obviously had done well in england as as he said and in fairness those are 3 really of the 4 biggest countries in the e.u. how similar or different do you seen the movements are between the brics that party and the general and marine le pen sylviane a lot of the of the far right leaders and clearly have some things in common that they are insurgent movements against the establishment in the country that he's seen or can be portrayed as being out of touch and in need of a kicking really a political version of kicking. beyond that of course i mean nigel farage within u.k. politics is very careful to stay as far as possible with inside the political mainstream the reason that ukip his former party has done very badly in these european elections and b. and in the local elections that took place in the recently is t

professor tony travers, who specialises in local government at the london school of economics, says the degree to which brexit plays a role in today's election results, is significant. there is a fascinating hypothetical, something we can't quite answer in these elections. if the brexit party and macro change uk stood in these elections, i suspect they would have damaged the conservatives and labour even more than they have been damaged in these elections so far. i think we will get to the euro elections, the brexit party will do significantly better than ukip has donein significantly better than ukip has done in these elections. it is fascinating that, despite brexit being an overlay for local elections, it looks like most of the disenchantment with the political system at westminster has fractured between the liberal democrats, independents, greens, it's gone all over the place, but not so much to ukip. in a moment we'll have all the business news, but first the headlines on bbc news. a brexit backlash in the local elections — both the conservatives and labour are punished at the po

good to talk to you, professor tony travers. labour has won overall control of trafford council in greater manchester for the first time in over a decade, that's certainly a symbolic victory and one that the labour party has been talking up. the labour leaderjeremy corbyn is there this morning to congratulate there this morning to congratulate the newly elected labour councillors. we were listening to him afew councillors. we were listening to him a few minutes ago. we lost 80 councillors, and are very sorry about that and i thank them for their services. that's about right... wait a minute, you're too excited. the conservatives lost 500 and lost control of a lot of councils. losing seats at this point in the electoral cycle is not a good night for labour. we have won trafford into an overall majority, we have swings to labour in a number of errors in councils across the whole of the country, and that gives usa whole of the country, and that gives us a basis on which we can win marginal seats such as swindon and thurrock, and ot