from norfolk, maria veronese reports. apart from the heightened security and press pack, the queen's arrival at king's lynn station at lunchtime was low—key, so low—key, in fact, that many of the passengers were unaware they had just shared their journey with the head of state. know, was she? that's why there's so much police and everybody. i didn't know she was riding. she was on the train, you have just know she was riding. she was on the train, you havejust missed her. know she was riding. she was on the train, you have just missed herlj did get to see her, no, but i didn't think she would be there when we saw the police. bless her heart, she is wonderful. she is truly wonderful. 0ne family managed to give the queen flowers a nd 0ne family managed to give the queen flowers and briefly speak to her. when we came out, she just said are these for me? how lovely, thank you very much. and what did you think of that? not many people get to meet the queen, do they? no, well, we we re very the queen, do they? no, well, we

maria veronese is at sandringham for us. after the queen's speech, she was expected to be reunited with her husband this afternoon. but soon after she arrived, the palace told us after she arrived, the palace told us that the duke of edinburgh, who spends a lot of his time here, had travelled 125 miles on the opposite direction to be admitted in the hospital. apart from the height and security impress, the queen's arrival of the station at lunch time was low key. so low—key that many of the passengers were unaware that they had to share theirjourney with they had to share theirjourney with the head of state. was she? so that is why there's so many policemen. she was the train! when you saw the police, i thought she might of been there. bless her heart, she is wonderful. she is truly wonderful. 0ne family was able to give her flowers a nd 0ne family was able to give her flowers and speak to her. how lovely, thank you very much. not many people get to meet the queen, do they? we were very lucky. the duke of edinburgh who spe

. >> thank you very much, commissioner alioto veronese. at this point, i'm going to be making some comments and questions, as well. is it possible that we could return to the slide, slide three, that shows the transamerica building in the background? also, john, i didn't catch your last name. >> jonathan shum. >> and you are the vice president of -- >> related california. >> thank you very much, mr. shum, and thank you for your presentation. i do really appreciate the comprehensive nature of your presentation. i appreciate the background reminders, the dates in terms of the supervisors original public land housing date of june 2015, ratified by the voters in k in 2015. i think it's really important for you to recite the resolution in 2017 and talk about the may 2018 resolution to take us to this particular point. because the context and gist of this whole proposal is important. as you can hear from commissioner covington, our real estate is on vacation, commissioner cleaveland, he would be asking many, many questions, but i think, again, y

commissioner alioto veronese. >> commissioner veronese: thank you very much. commissioner hardeman reminded me of the fire in paris. that was an historical fire, something once in a lifetime we see, and i was wondering if they had needed or we had offered any resources to them or for that matter, if there's anything we can learn from that fire, and would it be worth sending somebody out there to study either the response, the fire itself, the type of building, anything related to that? i'm wondering since it was such an unusual fire, would it be good to send somebody from chief sotto's office. >> so church fires are notoriously difficult to fire, especially a church like that. there will be an after action report and investigation that comes out of that, and we always look at those things, whether it's from, you know, a fire in, you know, houston, texas or in north carolina or -- but we typically don't send people over there to -- during an investigation, but we do -- we always learn from incidents such as this, and we will -- once we get that report, once we

alioto veronese: thank you. in regards, one kind of new thing i wanted to bring up to you to see if the department is doing, i know a lot of the technology that we use today in what we wear, helmets, hats, turnouts, you know, the pants and the boot. a lot of that technology is older technology. i'm wondering if the department is looking at what other departments in the world are doing as far as updating that type of technology, maybe turnouts for wildland fires that do not have the chemicals and that type of stuff. i noticed when i met with the fire ambassador from france, who is around, his helmet is very different, shaped a different than ours. i am wondering if our department is looking at that, what is out there. i know tradition is hard to break your in san francisco, the leather helmets and things that are historically a part of our history. i wondered if our department is looking at that? >> yes, we are looking at speaking with manufacturers about different turnout gear, and having some of those chemicals

veronese: in regard to the doctor's appearance here on the 28th. i would suggest that we converse with the city attorney on this. it would be unusual to conduct positive employee evaluation in a public forum. i do not know it is appropriate. it may or may not be. . >> v.p. covington: just for him to come and give a presentation on his department that he oversees. his evaluation will happen the following meeting, in closed session. . >> comm. veronese: that is an important clarification. i appreciate that. i don't wanted to seem like an employee evaluation. we are asking him questions and being critical in a public forum. i don't think that is appropriate, if we do it all. i am thankful for that information. i did not know there was a follow-up meeting where we could actually have cause two appropriate back-and-forth. . >> president nakajo: the reason why we instituted that appearance by the doctor is because of the favor of the commissioners in terms of asking questions, see the good dr. and having him respond. the presentation by the doctor is in

before we proceed with questions or comments for the record, commissioner veronese he has joined. commissioner cleveland? >> thank you, mr. president. thank you, chief for being here and bringing your talented and experienced team with you. i appreciate it, having worked for many years in the commercial real estate industry here in san francisco, i realize how invaluable your portion of the fire department is to the economy of our city. i appreciate every day what you guys and girls do. thank you for that. i had a couple questions. on the codes update, obviously that impacts all the built environment out there, and you mentioned there was nothing of a big deal, i guess you said, that was being considered currently. can you elaborate? >> that is my perspective. we are cleaning up some language regarding fire escapes, the maintenance of fire escapes, access to fire escapes. we are adding language about personnel that the fire department deems qualified to serve as sprinkler and fire alarm systems in san francisco. >> what does that mean? >> for example, to serve an annual inspection

veronese? >> commissioner veronese: can we see the -- >> yes, i will get it to you. >> commissioner veronese: then as far as the chase center is concerned, i'm sure you've run all the scenarios of having different events stacked on top of that one event, right, because you have the baseball stadium there, you have rush hour traffic, you've got, you know, god knows what other you know street closures happening on the weekend there. have you looked at the calendar and kind of run worst-case scenario of what that would be like? >> chief nicholson: yes, we have, absolutely. >> commissioner veronese: i have another thing and i forgot to write it down so i forgot it. i just remembered. in regards to the ongoing discussions you've had with the department of health on the ambulances sitting on hospitals, those are still ongoing? any progress there since our last meeting? >> chief nicholson: so we are gathering data around the time on task stuff and time at the hospital that we were talking about, but m

commissioner alioto veronese? >> commissioner veronese: thank you, commissioner. i apologize for the late jump-in, but i wasn't going to say anything, but i think this is really important. this is a position that we all know is critical to this department. it'll be interesting to see over this time period of new hire how impacted this office is with -- with the physician missing, but doctor, as we spoke before, it's really important that we're not clinicians up here, we're not doctors. our knowledge base is limited as to exactly what this department needs, so your input is also greatly appreciated in the job application description. it's really important. i'm curious, mr. president, to what our ability is to actually recruit specific people as opposed to -- for such a critical position as opposed to just taking from a list of the willing who apply. i know that i've served on commissions before where we've put together a task force of sorts -- i'm not saying it's needed -- but to actually go out and recruit other people perhaps away from other departments or other

commissioner alioto veronese? >> commissioner veronese: i understand we're going to be using paramedic larry to retirement, which is a bummer. he's a great guy and he's done a great service for this city. i just want to thank you, chief, for coming up with that program -- under your administration, certainly. it's a great program that we now have paramedics on bikes in the airport. it made me feel more secure in that airport because it's kind of siloed out there in its own little world. great job on that. larry's a great guy. really made me feel and my family feel good about having those paramedics in there. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. commission vice president covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you, mr. president. i just want to say that last week, we had a very reference and acknowledge our commission secretary, marie comfrey who really worked very, very hard on that retirement to make it as nice as it was. it is a great thing to see members come in and actually smile when they go out, as

commissioner veronese was there. the incident commander was r rex hale, and we had our hands full, but crew did a great job. like to acknowledge all the crews that responded to that fire as well as many members of the command staff, including chief cochran, chief sotto, chief rivera, and chief zanoff. later that evening, after i cleaned up a bit, that was a n.e.n. ceremony. it's a community recognition ceremony. nert lifetime achievement went to miss joanie vanrhine. she's a volunteer out in the m mira loma park area, and so we copresented her award that evening. there was at hsoc meeting on february 7 that i attended. on february 8, chief dicoscio and i attended a meeting where the mayor introduced her new housing delivery, juddson true. on saturday -- this last saturday, i attended a lunar new year's celebration at the request of president yee in the ingleside district. yesterday was a very busy day. there was a chamber of commerce breakfast that i attended. there was a rotary club emergency services day, where thr

commissioner veronese? >> commissioner veronese: three items. i know that we had been discussing earlier the ggnra and the cliffs. it's going to continuously become an issue for our department. i studied this issue about a year ago, and it's a complex issue. it's many different stations that respond to the cliffs. it's not just us, so i had suggested the mayor put together a task force to come up with some of the different issues. some of our people are having a hard time finding people. i think drones would be a good idea, as well. i wrote a resolution, and i owe it to madam secretary and i'll get it to you sometime in the next week. it's basically urging the mayor to put together this committee to actually do this. the second resolution i'd like to introduce is -- and i rempsed remp rempsed it earlier -- referenced it earlier, the discussion of cancer has come up a lot of times in this department. what i would like to do is -- and i'll have -- i may have discussed this briefly with you, chief, before, and i don't think it would be controversia

commissioner alioto veronese. >> commissioner veronese: mr. coresew, who is -- somebody on behalf of the department advocating for the department in this process? >> we will be involved with the selection process. that has not been -- review of the proposals, and selection process. for what, if there are deemed responsive proposals, we will have a seat at revieg

commissioner alioto veronese. >> commissioner veronese: mr. coresew, who is -- somebody on behalf of the department advocating for the department in this process? >> we will be involved with the selection process. that has not been -- review of the proposals, and selection process. for what, if there are deemed responsive proposals, we will have a seat at reviewing and collecting a proposal. >> this is not department property, this is city property? >> correct. >> commissioner veronese: ok. because i en moo, i think that there's -- there would be a reason to advocate for housing for firefighters and i'm wondering if that had become a part of any of these discussions. >> i don't believe -- i think the intent along with the mayor lee at the time's priority was affordable housing. >> commissioner veronese: firefighters can live in affordable housing, can't they? >> i would assume so, yes. but i don't believe -- my understanding of the discussion was not part of the overall goal. overall goal, kind of outlined here is to have funding available for

. >> thank you, very much, commissioner alioto-veronese. at this point, commissioner hardeman. >> thank you, mr. president. thank you for the clear speaking. your voice carried very good. probably always does. i just noticed how crisp and vibrant your voice was carrying. i just sat back and could hear very good. >> thank you. >> it's interesting, one of the reasons why graphs and charts and just information where you can view it is, you look at the base overview and you go back five years and you look at how it's grown. you look at how the department and the population have grown. that's a very modest growth in the budget. iin my opinion. i think we're holding the line very good. if you just grasp it, the reality isn't the city. if the city would just hold its own and not growing any in population or in workforce, for this department, you would expect anyway. doing this under the circumstances of growth and the 40% that no addresses. is there a collection of any money for the 40%? or we don't even try to collect that. >> we do. we bill, in

i saw commissioner veronese down in headquarters. so thank you for that. that concludes my report at this time. >> thank you, very much. at this particular point we will ask for public comment on the chief's report. seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners, vice president covington. >> thank you. thank you president nakajo. you said there are going to be 54 members for the new class? >> yes. >> ok, i know that i pressed quite strongly to increase the number of people that were admitted to the academy every academy cycle. that was due to the fact that so many members of the department were retiring. that has slowed to a trickle now. i know that having a 54 members of one class in training at one time has been quite a challenge for the training staff. so i'm wondering if there is a -- if you can just give me some feedback on the need to continue to have 54 members. >> sure. so we always take a look at our staffing levels. women lacking at mapped tory overtime. we needed to catch up just for that sake. we wanted to match play catch up and also mat

commissioner veronese. >> just briefly. thank you mr. president. i did want to report that, without naming names, i did visit two members of the department at saint francis hospital who were recovering. to wish them well on behalf of the commission. i did, in typical fashion, bring them stella pastries from north beach. that made the visitors happy. and then also today, i did attend the stress unit meeting. which i thought was very informative. they had some guest speakers there that experts that came and spoke to them about stress management and techniques and that type of thing. i'm pleased to report that the support of this chief, that unit has trained in this department has trained, i believe it's 60 members of the department for stress unit -- or stress-related identification and management. i think that it's a great start to where i'm hoping this department will go in developing a peer support unit pursuant to the resolution that we passed back in october. i'm looking forward to the chief's report. i did speak with the chief afterwards. it's

addition to president cleaveland and commissioners hardeman and covington are commissioner joe alioto veronese, as well as commissioner steven nakajo. thank you to the commission. certainly my commission is here, mark gonzalez, jean nicholson lieutenant t nicholson, lieutenant tom murphy in the back. section chief tony malloy, thank you very much for all the hard work. this is a facility that's very unique, nearly one of its kind in the state of california. we're building without a whole lot of blueprint or other facilities to look at. so that's why it took a lot of time and attention to detail to make this facility the great facility that it will be and that our members so deserve. public works, i will say i do consider director nuru a partner of mine. we come together. we have two other projects hopefully looking forward to being delivered soon, hopefully, before i retire. i know it's a top of your priority list as it is yours. thanks, mohamed. brian dahl also helped with this today. we brought good weather. also we look forward to holding accountable the contractors. i heard they're going t

commissioner veronese? >> commissioner veronese: i just have a couple of questions. i'd like to say congratulations to whoever started this. i think it is appropriately, i think we should get this thing passed under chief hayes-white because i'm sure she had a hand in this as she has a hand in everything that this department does. s very hard working. i had a couple questions about it. are these -- so if a student or, rather, a member of our department wants to go to city college to get their b.a., is that outside of this agreement or is that -- or a.a., is that something that's part of this agreement and how? >> so currently, as constructed, this agreement only covers the initial fire academy and one-year probationary period, so beyond that, there are no classes that are covered under this. eventually, the department would like to expand it, but we're using this as the initial stage of it, so anything as far as the overall a.a. degree, that would be outside of the current scope of the agreement. >> commiss

so i have to complete agree with commissioner veronese and our vise prosecute that we've gone tong bearing the burden as the fire department for some of the other city departments' responsibilities. thank you very much for your presentation. >> if i could just respond briefly. we have and we will continue in our discussions with the mayor's office advocate those specific positions. and i think a lot of those issues are citywide issues. they touch a number of departments, so we have been in the past and we will continue to do so, and will advocate that we have resources and will continue to assist. >> president cleaveland: i know you've been a good ad covate in that regard, and i appreciate that. thank you very much. any further comments? any further comments? madam secretary? >> clerk: public comment. >> president cleaveland: is there any public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> clerk: item six, report on fiscal year 2019-2020 capital and information technology budget requests. >> good morning again, mark corso, finance and planning to discuss the department's tap tall and