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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 


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11/09/2018 


William Gates III was interviewed at the offices of Sidley 
located at 1501 K Street, N.W., Washington, D.C., 20005. 
Present for the interview were Senior Special Counsel Attorneys (SASC) 
Andrew Weissmann and Jeannie Rhee, Assistant Special Counsel (ASC) A aron 
Zelinsky, and Special Agents | [ 

Gates's attorney, Tom Green of Sidley Austin LLP, was also present. After 
being advised of the identity of the interviewers and the nature of the 
interview, Gates provided the following information: 


June 12, 2016 to July-22. 2016 


[Agent Note: According to open sources, on 06/12/2016, Julian Assange 
(Assange) said during an interview on British television channel ITV that 
"we have upcoming leaks in relation to Hillary Clinton... we have emails 
pending publication, that is correct." Assange did not specify when or how 
many emails would be published.] 




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investigation on 10/25/2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person) 


Date drafted 10/25/2018 


This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not 

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Manafort was having Gates periodically call 


to check in on where 


the information was and when it would be coming. 


Gates recalled a conversation with | 

~| told Gates WikiLeaks would be dropping information 


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Gates said the Russia 


theory was in contradiction to the "inside job" theory that was floated 
later. 


Gates said a messaging strategy was being built in the June/July 2016 
timeframe surrounding the upcoming release of information.1 1 


was building this strategy with Manafort also involved. 


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Clinton's trustworthiness at 


this time was low. 



Post July 22, /WikiLeaks Releases 


Gates said the campaign was very happy about the WikiLeaks Democratic 
National Committee (DNC) releases on 07/22/2016. 



jvere happy from a communications team 


because it offered a mode of deflection for the campaign after 
a sink' itt polling numbers following Trump's comments about Ted Cruz's 


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father at the end of the Republican National Convention (RNC) [Agent Note: 
The 2016 Republican National Convention took place in Cleveland, Ohio from 
07/18/2016 - 07/21/2016]. 




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Gates said that after the Democratic National Convention in late July 
2016 [Agent Note: The 2016 Democratic National Convention was held in 

Philadelphia , Pennsylvania from 07/25/2016 - 07/28/2016] or in early _ 

August 2016, _ | 

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Manafort was getting pressure regarding^ 


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Gates said around this time Kellyanne Conway (Conway) and Stephen 
Bannon (Bannon) were appointed to the campaign and there were 
conversations behind the scenes about bringing people on to bolster 
Manafort. 


aid there was a strategy to defend Manafort by attacking 
■^gEJfcS^SSS^^’he idea was that Podesta had baggage as well. Gates said it was 
e the information did not come out in time to defend Manafort 
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October 7, 2016 


Gates said that on 10/07/2016 he was not in New York and was likely in 
Richmond, VA or W ashington, D.C. Gates 's primary contacts on the campaign 


at this time were 


and Brad Parscale (Parscale; 


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Gates advised he wasn't given a heads up on the Access Hollywood tape 
(the tape), but subsequently talked to members of the campaign, 
specifically Parscale, about it. Gates recalled the Parscale conversation 
being retrospective occurring on or about 10/08/2016. Parscale had told 
Gates he was in the room when the tape was outed. Parscale described this 

as a difficult time. Gates said a reporter had reached out to _ to 

give a heads up that the tape would be made public. Gates said there was a 

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Gates recalls discussions about content of the Podesta emails after 
their release. Gates said there were discussions about how many WikiLeaks 
would drop each day ^.of -tiie . 30,000 they had. 













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** Gates was shown an email 
containing the subject line "Trump adviser: Wikileaks plotting email dump 
to derail Hillary" ** 

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the aforementioned email. 


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Claims he was hacked alter disclosing what Assange told him 
Published: 08/16/2016 at 7 36 PM 



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NEW YORK - A top Trump adviser says his computer and personal bank accounls were hacked in 
retaliation for declaring publicly he believes Julian Assange of Wikileaks has a COm$$S^et of Hillary 
Clinton's 30,000 scrubbed private emails" and is preparing to release them to derail the Democratic 
Party nominee's presidential campaign. . - ! ais il a a&; 


Roger Stone, co-author of the bestselling book "The War on 

Women" and a longtime friend of Trump, told WND in an interview that 
he has communicated directty with Assange. SdialL 


Tn the next series of emails Assange plans to releasdiidffeiie reason to 
believe the Clinton Found/V/cr scandals will surface to keep Bill and 
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Stone noted Assange's release of DNC-hacked emails just before the 
start of the party's Philadelphia presidential nominating convention 
caused Debbie Wasserman Schuttz to resign as DNC chairman for her 
favoring Clinton over challenger Bemie Sanders. 

The next batch. Stone said, include Clinton's communications with 
State Department aides Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin. 

He said the hackers who penetrated his personal bank accounts 
managed to establish an online portal through which they began 
stealing money before they were detected and stopped. 

















"Major portions of {he hard drive on my computer system were 
destroyed, erasing maybe permaneniiy decades of emaii contacts and 
various writing projects that were yet in progress." he said. 


Stone told WND that white he has hired a team of computer experts to 
(determine if his lost computer files can be recovered, he believes much of the damage is permanent, 
forcing him to move into a more highly secured computer environment. 

in a speed! Southwest Broward Republican Organization in Florida, published Au o . 9 bv David 




), Stone said he had -communicated with 


Assange.’ 


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Stone told WND that Assar^ lpJ^r« ^j;&'ffp at various strategic points in the presidential campaigns 
Hillary Clinton emails involving the Clinton Foundation that have yet to surface pubiically." 

-Assange claims the emails contain enough damaging information to put Hillary Clinton in jail for 
felling State Department official acts' in exchange for contributions to the Clinton Foundation and as 
a reward for Clinton Foundation donors becoming dients of Teneo. the consulting firm established by 
Bill Clinton's White House body man' Doug Band.' he said. 

"The Democrats are right to fear Assange's next email drops will be devastating to Hillary." 


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:). first disclosed his computer and bank accounts had been hacked. 


Clinton Foundation conflicts of interest 

In May 2013, Pojilicg.krp.k e..the_gtof v.mn p.:/fw^ 

St3te-091S03 ) that longtime Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin spent her final months at Ihe State 
Department working as a 'special government employee' in a part-time consultancy, beginning 
during her pregnancy in the summer of 2012, while she worked second job as a part-time consultant 
lib Teneo. 


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four different jobs simultaneously, bcfeig paid atso by tfee Ciinton Foundation, where she was a 
contractor preparing for Hiliary Clinton's- eventual transition from the State Department to the charily. 


lalsfi Mills, on June t g. 2012. white serving as chief of staff for Secretary of State Clinton, traveled 
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that yielded dozens of Hillary 

Clinton emails that documented Mills and Abedin had been in regular contact with both the Ctmton 
Foundation and with Doug Band via his email at his consulting firm. Teneo. 

The decision by Citizens United to publish the emails in their entirety triggered a firestorm of criticism 
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/The Clinton Foundation had a direct line to Hillary Clinton's former chief of staff at the State 
department, seeking her advice on lucrative speaking invitations for former President Bill Clinton 
Outside of the department's normal ethics process, according to emails that surfaced in a federal 
lawsuit," reporter Rachael Bade wrote in Politico on Sept. 30, 2015. in an article titled "Clinton's chief 
of staff gave advice to Clinton Foundation." 

"Foundation officials sought guidance from Cheryf Mills, a longtime Clinton lawyer and friend, on 
Whether the former president should accept paid speaking gigs in countries that could have 
presented public relaiions problems, including a North Korea appearance that the nonprofit said 
ftiltary Clinton's brother was pushing, the emails show, ’ Bade continued. 

Noting that Mills sat on the Clinton Foundation board before becoming the State Department s No. 2 
Employee, Bade commented that "Mills' involvement with some of the most sensitive speaking 
requesls shows that top foundation officials felt comfortable seeking advice directly from Hillary 
Clinton's closest adviser and consulted her privately on speaking requests invoiving hundreds of 
thousands of dollars." 

Bade also reported that the attorney for Mills. Beth Wiikinson, a partner at Paul. Weiss, Rifkind. 
Wharton & Garrison LLP. argued that her client simpiy gave advice and did not officially approve the 
arrangements, insisting no State Department rules had been broken. 

"A member of Hillary Clinton’s staff at the Department of State emailed classified information about 
the government in Congo to a staffer at tne Ctmton Foundation in 2012,' wrote Aiana Goodman in a 




Goodman reported Mills sent the email to the Clinton Foundation foreign policy director. Amitabh 
Desai. on July 12, 2012. commenting that the FOIA-refeased email had been partially redacted 
because it included "foreign government information" that has been classified as 'Confidential" by the 
State Department. 


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'The message could add to concerns from congressional and FBI investigators about whether former 
Secretary Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information while at the State Department.’' 
Goodman reported. 'The email, which discussed the relationship between the governments in 
Rwanda and Ihe Democratic Republic of Congo, was originally drafted by Johnnie Carson, the State 
Department's assistant secretary for African affairs, who sent it to Mills’ State Department email 
address.” 

Goodman further reported that Mills later forwarded the full message to Desai along with 'talking 
points” for former President Bill Clinton shortly before he was scheduled to visit the Cjjion. 


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military uses, as part of her “reset" strategy with Russja^ aj^KjHjcy^a 

"Clinton Cash” author Peter Schweizer is president of GAl. and Steve 
Bannon, the CEO of the Trump campaign, is a director. 


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The Russian entities that iunneled money to Joule and its related 
companies, and ultimately to Podesia. include a controversial Russian 
investor with ties to the Russian government, Viktor Vekselberg, and 
his Renova Group, a Russian conglomerate with interests in oil. energy 
and telecommunication 

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Tii<S Government Accountability institute report noted Joule was a new company, founded in 2007, 
pioneering a technology based on harnessing solar energy. Podesla nonsuited for a foundation run 
by one of the investors in Joule Energy, Hansjoerg Wyss, who in turn was a major Clinton 
Foundation donor. 

The report documented the Wyss Foundation has given from SI million to $5 million io the Clinton 
Foundation. Podesta was paid $87,000 by the Wyss Foundation in 2013, according to federal lax 
records. 

In his 2014 federal government <jjsf&>sure filing. Podesta declared he divested stock options from 
Joie, but the disclosure doe«f»sf saver the years 2011-2012. 

Jobie Global Stichting was established in Amsterdam-on March 14,2011. 

Podesta joined the company's executive board on June 25.2011. Joule Stichting is a foundation, but 
it's not strictly a foundation in the charitable sense. A foundation of this type, a Dutch Stichting, is a 
popular means for reducing one's tax burden, as noted on the website of the Panamanian law firm 
Mossack Fonseca. 


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The Government Accountability Institute concluded that although Podesta is listed on the corporate 
records, he Jailed to disclose his membership on the board of Joule Stichting in his federal financial 
disclosure forms when he joined Uu; Obama White House as a senior adviser. 

Russian government invests 

Two months after Podesta joined the board, the Russian government investment fund Rusnano, the 
Russian Corporation of Nanotechnologies, founded by Vladimir Pulin in 2007. announced it would 
invest up to $35 million in Joule Unlimited. 

On: Aug. i, Bannon and Schweizer co-authored a 8reilhart.com article titled “Report; Hillary Clinto n's 

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"The GAI investigative report says it's unclear how much, if any, money Podesta made. The reason: 
Podesta was on the board of three Joule entities, but only listed two on his disclosure; the most 
important entity, Joule Stichting, he did not list,” Bannon and Schweizer noted. “Why Podesta failed 
to rpveai, as required by law on his federal financial disclosures, his membership on the board ol this 
offshore company is presently unknown." 

Bannon and Schweizer further reported flows of funds from Russia during the "reset" to Podesta- 
connected entities apparently didn't end with Joule Energy, as Pcdestas far-left think tank, Center for 
American Progress. CAP. took in $5,25 million from trie Sea Change Foundation between 2010 and 
2013. The Sea Change Foundation, II turns out, ties into vanous entities specifically named and 
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